Compare/Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) vs Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)

Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)vsKimi K2.5 (Reasoning)

Side-by-side comparison of pricing, 12 benchmarks, and generation speed.

Nous Research

Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)

Input
$1/M
Output
$3/M
Speed
22 tok/s
TTFT
2.56s
Kimi

Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)

Input
$0.6/M
Output
$3/M
Speed
43 tok/s
TTFT
2.84s

Winner by Category

Cheaper
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)
Faster (tok/s)
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)
Lower Latency
Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)
Benchmarks (0-2)
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)

Pricing Comparison

MetricHermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)
Input ($/M tokens)$1$0.6
Output ($/M tokens)$3$3
Cost for 1M input + 100K output tokens:
Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)$1.30
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)$0.90

Speed Comparison

Output Speed (tokens/s) — higher is better
Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)
22 tok/s
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)
43 tok/s
Time to First Token (seconds) — lower is better
Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)
2.56s
Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)
2.84s

Editorial Analysis

Verdict. Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) takes the aggregate benchmark matchup 2–0 across 2 categories. Real workloads usually care about a handful of specific tasks — see the per-benchmark table above.

Pricing. Both models sit in the budget bracket for output-token pricing. At 1.0× the per-million-token cost, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) is meaningfully cheaper if your traffic is output-heavy (long completions, document generation, agent loops). Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) makes more sense when output volume is low and absolute reasoning quality justifies the premium.

Strengths. Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) is strongest on Intelligence Index (8.6). Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) leads on Coding Index (46.8), Intelligence Index (36.0).

Speed. On throughput, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) generates tokens at 43 tok/s versus 22 tok/s — about 50% faster. On time-to-first-token, Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) responds in 2560ms vs 2840ms, which matters most for chat-style UIs.

Provider. Nous Research and Kimi sell to overlapping but distinct developer audiences: Nous Research tends to ship frontier reasoning models with premium positioning, while Kimi often prices more aggressively. Your existing vendor relationships, billing, and SLA preferences may matter as much as the raw numbers above.

Workload cost. Workload scenarios (per million requests at 30M input + 15M output tokens): Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) costs $75.00 ($900/year); Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) costs $63.00 ($756/year). At a smaller 5M-input/2M-output scale (single-developer tool or prototype): Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) ≈ $11.00/run, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) ≈ $9.00/run. At agent/realtime scale (200M input / 100M output per million requests): Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) ≈ $500/run, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) ≈ $420/run. Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) becomes more attractive at higher volume — the absolute per-token pricing difference compounds when you ship at scale.

Recommendation. Both models have legitimate use cases — the right answer depends on whether you are optimizing for benchmark ceiling, latency, or unit cost. Start with the cheaper / faster model, evaluate against your specific task, and only switch if the upgrade shows a meaningful lift.

Head-to-head deltas

  • On throughput, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) is 1.99× faster (43 tok/s vs 22 tok/s). For streaming chat or real-time agents this alone often flips the recommendation.

Benchmark Comparison

Data from Artificial Analysis API — 12 benchmarks

Intelligence Index
8.636.0
Coding Index
46.8
Math Index
GPQA Diamond
MMLU-Pro
LiveCodeBench
AIME 2025
MATH-500
Humanity's Last Exam
SciCode
IFBench
TerminalBench
Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning)0 wins
2 winsKimi K2.5 (Reasoning)

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is cheaper, Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) or Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)?

Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) is cheaper overall. Its blended price (3:1 input/output ratio) is $1.20/M tokens vs $1.50/M for Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning).

Which model performs better on benchmarks?

Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) wins 2 out of 12 benchmarks compared to 0 for Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning). See the detailed benchmark chart above for per-category results.

Which is faster for real-time applications?

Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) generates tokens faster at 43 tok/s vs 22 tok/s. Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) also has lower time-to-first-token (2.56s vs 2.84s).

When should I use Hermes 4 - Llama-3.1 405B (Non-reasoning) vs Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning)?

Choose based on your priorities: Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) for lower cost, Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) for stronger benchmark performance, and Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning) for faster generation. For latency-sensitive apps, check the TTFT comparison above.