Compare/Qwen3.8 Max vs Grok 4.5 (high)

Qwen3.8 MaxvsGrok 4.5 (high)

Side-by-side comparison of pricing, 12 benchmarks, and generation speed.

Alibaba

Qwen3.8 Max

Input
$2/M
Output
$6/M
Speed
51 tok/s
TTFT
1.54s
SpaceXAI

Grok 4.5 (high)

Input
$2/M
Output
$6/M
Speed
59 tok/s
TTFT
12.20s

Winner by Category

Cheaper
Tie
Faster (tok/s)
Grok 4.5 (high)
Lower Latency
Qwen3.8 Max
Benchmarks (0-4)
Grok 4.5 (high)

Pricing Comparison

MetricQwen3.8 MaxGrok 4.5 (high)
Input ($/M tokens)$2$2
Output ($/M tokens)$6$6
Cost for 1M input + 100K output tokens:
Qwen3.8 Max$2.60
Grok 4.5 (high)$2.60

Speed Comparison

Output Speed (tokens/s) — higher is better
Qwen3.8 Max
51 tok/s
Grok 4.5 (high)
59 tok/s
Time to First Token (seconds) — lower is better
Qwen3.8 Max
1.54s
Grok 4.5 (high)
12.20s

Editorial Analysis

Verdict. Grok 4.5 (high) takes the aggregate benchmark matchup 4–0 across 4 categories. Real workloads usually care about a handful of specific tasks — see the per-benchmark table above.

Pricing. Both models sit in the mid-tier bracket for output-token pricing. At 1.0× the per-million-token cost, Grok 4.5 (high) is meaningfully cheaper if your traffic is output-heavy (long completions, document generation, agent loops). Grok 4.5 (high) makes more sense when output volume is low and absolute reasoning quality justifies the premium.

Strengths. Qwen3.8 Max is strongest on GPQA Diamond (92%), Coding Index (68.9), Intelligence Index (53.4). Grok 4.5 (high) leads on GPQA Diamond (93%), Coding Index (72.4), SciCode (54%).

Speed. Throughput is comparable — 51 tok/s vs 59 tok/s — so generation speed shouldn't drive your choice here. Look at the per-benchmark wins instead.

Provider. Alibaba and SpaceXAI sell to overlapping but distinct developer audiences: Alibaba tends to ship frontier reasoning models with premium positioning, while SpaceXAI often prices more aggressively. Your existing vendor relationships, billing, and SLA preferences may matter as much as the raw numbers above.

Workload cost. Workload scenarios (per million requests at 30M input + 15M output tokens): Qwen3.8 Max costs $150.00 ($1800/year); Grok 4.5 (high) costs $150.00 ($1800/year). At a smaller 5M-input/2M-output scale (single-developer tool or prototype): Qwen3.8 Max ≈ $22.00/run, Grok 4.5 (high) ≈ $22.00/run. At agent/realtime scale (200M input / 100M output per million requests): Qwen3.8 Max ≈ $1000/run, Grok 4.5 (high) ≈ $1000/run.

Recommendation. Both models have legitimate use cases — the right answer depends on whether you are optimizing for benchmark ceiling, latency, or unit cost. Start with the cheaper / faster model, evaluate against your specific task, and only switch if the upgrade shows a meaningful lift.

Head-to-head deltas

  • Grok 4.5 (high) wins 4 more benchmarks than its opponent — a margin wide enough to call the comparison settled on benchmark terms alone.
  • Time-to-first-token differs by 7.9× — Qwen3.8 Max responds in 1539ms vs 12197ms. For interactive chat UIs this can matter more than raw benchmark wins.
  • Aggregate benchmark score (sum across 12 categories, capped at 100): Qwen3.8 Max = 124, Grok 4.5 (high) = 128. Within 15% — effectively equivalent if both meet the threshold your product requires.

Benchmark Comparison

Data from Artificial Analysis API — 12 benchmarks

Intelligence Index
53.453.8
Coding Index
68.972.4
Math Index
GPQA Diamond
92.2%93.1%
MMLU-Pro
LiveCodeBench
AIME 2025
MATH-500
Humanity's Last Exam
40.3%40.3%
SciCode
45.0%54.1%
IFBench
TerminalBench
Qwen3.8 Max0 wins
4 winsGrok 4.5 (high)

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is cheaper, Qwen3.8 Max or Grok 4.5 (high)?

Both models have similar pricing. Check the detailed breakdown above for input vs output token costs.

Which model performs better on benchmarks?

Grok 4.5 (high) wins 4 out of 12 benchmarks compared to 0 for Qwen3.8 Max. See the detailed benchmark chart above for per-category results.

Which is faster for real-time applications?

Grok 4.5 (high) generates tokens faster at 59 tok/s vs 51 tok/s. Qwen3.8 Max also has lower time-to-first-token (1.54s vs 12.20s).

When should I use Qwen3.8 Max vs Grok 4.5 (high)?

Choose based on your priorities: both are similarly priced, Grok 4.5 (high) for stronger benchmark performance, and Grok 4.5 (high) for faster generation. For latency-sensitive apps, check the TTFT comparison above.