Compare/Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) vs DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)vsDeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)

Side-by-side comparison of pricing, 12 benchmarks, and generation speed.

Alibaba

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)

Input
$0.4/M
Output
$4/M
Speed
57 tok/s
TTFT
2.82s
DeepSeek

DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)

Input
$2/M
Output
$4/M
Speed
TTFT

Winner by Category

Cheaper
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)
Faster (tok/s)
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)
Lower Latency
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)
Benchmarks (1-1)
Tie

Pricing Comparison

MetricQwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)
Input ($/M tokens)$0.4$2
Output ($/M tokens)$4$4
Cost for 1M input + 100K output tokens:
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)$0.80
DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)$2.40

Speed Comparison

Output Speed (tokens/s) — higher is better
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)
57 tok/s
DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)
Time to First Token (seconds) — lower is better
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)
2.82s
DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)

Editorial Analysis

Verdict. Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) and DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) split the benchmark comparison evenly at 1–1. The tiebreaker here is price, speed, and what you actually run them on.

Pricing. Both models sit in the mid-tier bracket for output-token pricing. At 1.0× the per-million-token cost, DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) is meaningfully cheaper if your traffic is output-heavy (long completions, document generation, agent loops). DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) makes more sense when output volume is low and absolute reasoning quality justifies the premium.

Strengths. Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) is strongest on Intelligence Index (20.9). DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) leads on Coding Index (24.6), Intelligence Index (18.6).

Speed. Speed data is incomplete for this pair; benchmark and price should decide.

Provider. Alibaba and DeepSeek sell to overlapping but distinct developer audiences: Alibaba tends to ship frontier reasoning models with premium positioning, while DeepSeek often prices more aggressively. Your existing vendor relationships, billing, and SLA preferences may matter as much as the raw numbers above.

Workload cost. Workload scenarios (per million requests at 30M input + 15M output tokens): Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) costs $72.00 ($864/year); DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) costs $120.00 ($1440/year). At a smaller 5M-input/2M-output scale (single-developer tool or prototype): Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) ≈ $10.00/run, DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) ≈ $18.00/run. At agent/realtime scale (200M input / 100M output per million requests): Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) ≈ $480/run, DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25) ≈ $800/run. Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) becomes more attractive at higher volume — the absolute per-token pricing difference compounds when you ship at scale.

Recommendation. Both models have legitimate use cases — the right answer depends on whether you are optimizing for benchmark ceiling, latency, or unit cost. Start with the cheaper / faster model, evaluate against your specific task, and only switch if the upgrade shows a meaningful lift.

Head-to-head deltas

  • Benchmark wins tie exactly at 1–1. The tiebreaker on raw benchmark parity will be price, speed, or capability coverage.

Benchmark Comparison

Data from Artificial Analysis API — 12 benchmarks

Intelligence Index
20.918.6
Coding Index
24.6
Math Index
GPQA Diamond
MMLU-Pro
LiveCodeBench
AIME 2025
MATH-500
Humanity's Last Exam
SciCode
IFBench
TerminalBench
Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning)1 wins
1 winsDeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is cheaper, Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) or DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)?

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) is cheaper overall. Its blended price (3:1 input/output ratio) is $1.30/M tokens vs $2.50/M for DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25).

Which model performs better on benchmarks?

It's a tie — both models win 1 benchmarks each across 12 evaluated categories. See the detailed benchmark chart above for per-category results.

Which is faster for real-time applications?

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) generates tokens faster at 57 tok/s vs — tok/s. Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) also has lower time-to-first-token (2.82s vs —s).

When should I use Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) vs DeepSeek R1 (Jan '25)?

Choose based on your priorities: Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) for lower cost, both perform similarly on benchmarks, and Qwen3 VL 235B A22B (Reasoning) for faster generation. For latency-sensitive apps, check the TTFT comparison above.